Hmmm, I would feel like I was taking advantage, but if were not in a tourny and you want to play a match or 2 for fun and want me to tell you how many differrent ways I cheated let me know. I guess I'll have to open my eyes from now on as well. I had been relaxed with the thought that I was playing with kids. Kids wouldn't cheat would they? I will definately play with my poker eyes open from now on, thanks.